These dogs may be rare in the states, but we have two, a mom and her son. They are about 25 pounds an knee high. They love to play, hug and most especially, incredibly non-allergenic. More so than poodles, waterdogs an laberdoodles. They aren't in the AKC yet because there aren't enough of them in the states yet, they are very popular in europe. They look like an Egytian Pharoah Hound. The are incredibly sweet dogs